Comments on: OpenID, I want to love it but… http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/ The company behind LouderVoice Customer Reviews Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:14:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Conor http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6530 Conor Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:13:19 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6530 So they are all running flat out to get OpenID v2.0 out the door before v1.0 is even fully interoperable? I'm even more pessimistic now. So they are all running flat out to get OpenID v2.0 out the door before v1.0 is even fully interoperable?

I’m even more pessimistic now.

]]> By: Paul http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6529 Paul Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:07:51 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6529 to add to the public provider list, mylid.net & www.protectnetwork.org related to the lack of SPs, is this (http://connectid.blogspot.com/2007/02/sampling-openid-rps.html) to add to the public provider list, mylid.net & http://www.protectnetwork.org

related to the lack of SPs, is this (http://connectid.blogspot.com/2007/02/sampling-openid-rps.html)

]]> By: Conor http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6514 Conor Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:34:48 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6514 Finally logged in using the MyOpenID URL! Finally logged in using the MyOpenID URL!

]]> By: Conor http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6510 Conor Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:39:07 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6510 Of course then you have the other problem. I decided to post a comment on LoveShack in reply <a href="http://www.the-love-shack.net/2007/02/12/too-many-chiefs/" rel="nofollow">to their post which linked here</a>. They have the OpenID plug-in for Wordpress enabled so I thought I'd give it a spin. Total failure. If I use my own URLs, it cannot find an end-point and if I use either my ClaimID or VerisignLabs URLs, I get "bad signature". We're still an long way from seamless it seems. Of course then you have the other problem.

I decided to post a comment on LoveShack in reply to their post which linked here. They have the OpenID plug-in for WordPress enabled so I thought I’d give it a spin. Total failure.

If I use my own URLs, it cannot find an end-point and if I use either my ClaimID or VerisignLabs URLs, I get “bad signature”.

We’re still an long way from seamless it seems.

]]> By: The Love Shack » Too many Chiefs… http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6505 The Love Shack » Too many Chiefs… Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:19:56 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6505 [...] But I’m genuinely concerned that if this trend of companies only being providers doesn’t change, OpenID will end up just being another one of those great ideas that never quite caught on. Thankfully, other people are noticing this as well. Conor over at Argolon put up a great entry about this problem. [...] [...] But I’m genuinely concerned that if this trend of companies only being providers doesn’t change, OpenID will end up just being another one of those great ideas that never quite caught on. Thankfully, other people are noticing this as well. Conor over at Argolon put up a great entry about this problem. [...]

]]> By: Useless OpenID uses… | OpenID Planet http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6501 Useless OpenID uses… | OpenID Planet Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:01:21 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6501 [...] OpenID, I want to love it but… [...] [...] OpenID, I want to love it but… [...]

]]> By: Conor http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6130 Conor Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:41:09 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6130 I actually wrote this post after reading Marc's post and doing some more research myself. I find the Six Apart position strange, maybe it's just a resource limitation, I assume Vox is taking up huge effort - but still no raw HTML mode or support for microformats :-( I do have to point out that I have never successfully logged into People Aggregator using Sxip or OpenID and I just tried again a few moments ago. I actually wrote this post after reading Marc’s post and doing some more research myself. I find the Six Apart position strange, maybe it’s just a resource limitation, I assume Vox is taking up huge effort – but still no raw HTML mode or support for microformats :-(

I do have to point out that I have never successfully logged into People Aggregator using Sxip or OpenID and I just tried again a few moments ago.

]]> By: Conor http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6128 Conor Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:28:48 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6128 Hmm, worth posting a comment over at Fred's blog about this? www.conoroneill.com worked for me on some of the sites but not on Zooomr where I had to use www.claimid.com/conoro Hmm, worth posting a comment over at Fred’s blog about this?

http://www.conoroneill.com worked for me on some of the sites but not on Zooomr where I had to use http://www.claimid.com/conoro

]]> By: James Corbett http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6127 James Corbett Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:19:45 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6127 Your post convinced me it was time to sign up Conor (with ClaimID) and it was painless process but I've run into one problem. While my blog URL works fine my domain name, which is redirected to my blog, doesn't. I get the following error - "Error retrieving identity URL: Fetching URL not allowed: '/?9d267478'" I get that means I'll have to do domain forwarding instead. I hope that works? Your post convinced me it was time to sign up Conor (with ClaimID) and it was painless process but I’ve run into one problem. While my blog URL works fine my domain name, which is redirected to my blog, doesn’t. I get the following error – “Error retrieving identity URL: Fetching URL not allowed: ‘/?9d267478′”

I get that means I’ll have to do domain forwarding instead. I hope that works?

]]> By: Conor http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6126 Conor Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:19:18 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6126 I hope we are seeing genuine movement. They still have a job on their hands with explaining the idea to people tho. Being re-directed to another site to enter username/pw is going to be very confusing to a lot of people. From a user perspective it'll be early adopter crowd only for quite a long time. I'd be happy to use it but none of the sites I spend most of my time on allow me to logon using it or are likely to do so in the foreseeable future: N * Google Apps, del.icio.us, Flickr, Yahoo, Technorati, NetVibes, N * Wikis, N * Blogs (ok there is a WP plugin for comments), eBay, BaseCamp, Trac etc etc Fingers crossed for at least one of them to do it and reduce my reliance on eWallet. I hope we are seeing genuine movement. They still have a job on their hands with explaining the idea to people tho. Being re-directed to another site to enter username/pw is going to be very confusing to a lot of people. From a user perspective it’ll be early adopter crowd only for quite a long time.

I’d be happy to use it but none of the sites I spend most of my time on allow me to logon using it or are likely to do so in the foreseeable future: N * Google Apps, del.icio.us, Flickr, Yahoo, Technorati, NetVibes, N * Wikis, N * Blogs (ok there is a WP plugin for comments), eBay, BaseCamp, Trac etc etc

Fingers crossed for at least one of them to do it and reduce my reliance on eWallet.

]]> By: James Corbett http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6123 James Corbett Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:54:29 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6123 Good points Conor but isn't this the usual pattern with any bootstrap - ie. it follow an exponential curve of sorts. Something like Metcalfe's law? What I think we're seeing now is, at long last, a movement out of the flat part of the curve. Marc Canter has been expressing frustration with SixApart because, while *supporting* OpenID they're not actively promoting it. He's right, that's what's needed. But I think the momentum is there now that we can expect to see it grow immensely in the coming year. At least I hope. Because being able to say "I am the URL" is a proviso towards "I'm the application". Good points Conor but isn’t this the usual pattern with any bootstrap – ie. it follow an exponential curve of sorts. Something like Metcalfe’s law? What I think we’re seeing now is, at long last, a movement out of the flat part of the curve.

Marc Canter has been expressing frustration with SixApart because, while *supporting* OpenID they’re not actively promoting it. He’s right, that’s what’s needed. But I think the momentum is there now that we can expect to see it grow immensely in the coming year. At least I hope. Because being able to say “I am the URL” is a proviso towards “I’m the application”.

]]> By: Conor http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6103 Conor Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:11:54 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6103 My concern stems from the fact that v1 has been out there a long time as have the libraries but beyond lots and lots of talk, I see very few sites enabling it e.g. how long has it been since Wikipedia started talking about it, last June? My concern stems from the fact that v1 has been out there a long time as have the libraries but beyond lots and lots of talk, I see very few sites enabling it e.g. how long has it been since Wikipedia started talking about it, last June?

]]> By: Paul M. Watson http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6102 Paul M. Watson Thu, 08 Feb 2007 07:40:42 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6102 Nicely put Argolon. Google (GMail, GCal, GReader, GAnalytics etc.) and Yahoo! (Flickr and Delicious) need to support it. Also I am not sure if the Microsoft support extends to their Live strategy? Nicely put Argolon. Google (GMail, GCal, GReader, GAnalytics etc.) and Yahoo! (Flickr and Delicious) need to support it. Also I am not sure if the Microsoft support extends to their Live strategy?

]]> By: Fred http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/comment-page-1/#comment-6076 Fred Thu, 08 Feb 2007 00:46:46 +0000 http://www.argolon.com/2007/02/07/openid-i-want-to-love-it-but/#comment-6076 The openid-enabled sites are coming! The market will follow the networks. At least that's what I hope. Thanks for the kind words btw. The openid-enabled sites are coming! The market will follow the networks. At least that’s what I hope. Thanks for the kind words btw.

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