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		<title>By: Outsourcing</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-4406</link>
		<dc:creator>Outsourcing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outsourcing has become indispensible in today&#039;s competitive world. The major reason of outsourcing is to cut off the cost. But outsourcing also helps you to save most of your labor intensive and time consuming jobs. By outsourcing, specially to India, you can enjoy both the benefits. We urge you to visit at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kpoasia.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Outsourcing&lt;/a&gt; to know more about outsourcing and its advantages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outsourcing has become indispensible in today&#8217;s competitive world. The major reason of outsourcing is to cut off the cost. But outsourcing also helps you to save most of your labor intensive and time consuming jobs. By outsourcing, specially to India, you can enjoy both the benefits. We urge you to visit at <a href="http://www.kpoasia.com" rel="nofollow">Outsourcing</a> to know more about outsourcing and its advantages.</p>
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		<title>By: Advanced Technology Products Interactive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Outsourcing Adventure by Argolon</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Advanced Technology Products Interactive &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Outsourcing Adventure by Argolon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eoghan McCabe</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoghan McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 17:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conor, you&#039;ve given me a lot to think about re outsourcing abroad and services as a commodity in the global market. Your comments have cleared a couple things up in my head. Cheers! My next outsourcing will be through Elance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conor, you&#8217;ve given me a lot to think about re outsourcing abroad and services as a commodity in the global market. Your comments have cleared a couple things up in my head. Cheers! My next outsourcing will be through Elance.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, just put in a comment about Eircom on the post about Elance!

Detailed requirements have always been the long distance challenge. I had a customer in Boston last year who refused to ever write anything down. I had to &quot;interpret&quot; his meaning on multiple phone calls each week. If it wasn&#039;t for the FreeMind mindmapper, the Leo outliner and Valium, I&#039;d never have been able to build his system.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, just put in a comment about Eircom on the post about Elance!</p>
<p>Detailed requirements have always been the long distance challenge. I had a customer in Boston last year who refused to ever write anything down. I had to &#8220;interpret&#8221; his meaning on multiple phone calls each week. If it wasn&#8217;t for the FreeMind mindmapper, the Leo outliner and Valium, I&#8217;d never have been able to build his system.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Browne - TIPE</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Browne - TIPE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far I&#039;ve had nothing but good experience with people from E-Lance / Rent-a-coder. They&#039;re so good it makes you wonder about the future of the Irish Software industry!

The only caveat that I have is that you *must* be crystal clear in your requirements, and to be able to put all your requirements in writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far I&#8217;ve had nothing but good experience with people from E-Lance / Rent-a-coder. They&#8217;re so good it makes you wonder about the future of the Irish Software industry!</p>
<p>The only caveat that I have is that you *must* be crystal clear in your requirements, and to be able to put all your requirements in writing!</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was really using the logo as a test run on Elance and I&#039;m just totally thrilled with the result. I could come up with no changes that I wanted other than the text placement. New site, blog and logo coming hopefully by the end of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really using the logo as a test run on Elance and I&#8217;m just totally thrilled with the result. I could come up with no changes that I wanted other than the text placement. New site, blog and logo coming hopefully by the end of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: James Corbett</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>James Corbett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 19:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Conor, I&#039;m looking forward to seeing the logo. We used elance a few years ago when we got a Russian programmer to do a javascript menu. It worked out well and was good value.

As regards our logo though we just went with Gotlogo.com, &quot;home of the $25 logo&quot;. Ok, they might not be top class but we were quiet happy with results considering what we paid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Conor, I&#8217;m looking forward to seeing the logo. We used elance a few years ago when we got a Russian programmer to do a javascript menu. It worked out well and was good value.</p>
<p>As regards our logo though we just went with Gotlogo.com, &#8220;home of the $25 logo&#8221;. Ok, they might not be top class but we were quiet happy with results considering what we paid.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully this will be a ten-part post! I&#039;ll keep posting as the adventure continues, both the good and the bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully this will be a ten-part post! I&#8217;ll keep posting as the adventure continues, both the good and the bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Conor</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Conor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 13:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a great believer in the global economy. In my career I&#039;ve done very well from US and Japanese companies either setting up here to save money or outsourcing to here. 

Then I did a start-up in 2002 which didn&#039;t work out because, post-crash, a huge chunk of our market had switched to using India. The solution was to re-train and move up the food-chain.

As each role becomes commoditised, it will move to lower-cost countries and I think that is only fair. One thing that galled me about Live8 was all the &quot;let&#039;s make poverty history&quot; coming from people who the very next day were fighting tooth and nail to keep sugar beet subsidies unchanged thus continuing the impoverishment of sugar cane producers outside the EU.

Smart people will always find ways of specialising and upskilling to stay ahead. I don&#039;t think you are going to have any issues there, Eoghan. 

My search for development expertise went from India to Latvia to Poland and ended up in the UK. The right people with the right skills and right attitude at a reasonable price win every time.

BTW, even on Elance, I didn&#039;t go with the cheapest price, I went for a median one with the style that I wanted.

Interesting that an Irish company put in a bid for the work which unfortunately was double everyone else&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a great believer in the global economy. In my career I&#8217;ve done very well from US and Japanese companies either setting up here to save money or outsourcing to here. </p>
<p>Then I did a start-up in 2002 which didn&#8217;t work out because, post-crash, a huge chunk of our market had switched to using India. The solution was to re-train and move up the food-chain.</p>
<p>As each role becomes commoditised, it will move to lower-cost countries and I think that is only fair. One thing that galled me about Live8 was all the &#8220;let&#8217;s make poverty history&#8221; coming from people who the very next day were fighting tooth and nail to keep sugar beet subsidies unchanged thus continuing the impoverishment of sugar cane producers outside the EU.</p>
<p>Smart people will always find ways of specialising and upskilling to stay ahead. I don&#8217;t think you are going to have any issues there, Eoghan. </p>
<p>My search for development expertise went from India to Latvia to Poland and ended up in the UK. The right people with the right skills and right attitude at a reasonable price win every time.</p>
<p>BTW, even on Elance, I didn&#8217;t go with the cheapest price, I went for a median one with the style that I wanted.</p>
<p>Interesting that an Irish company put in a bid for the work which unfortunately was double everyone else&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Eoghan McCabe</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-211</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoghan McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, think of the savings... Might have a look around Elance. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, think of the savings&#8230; Might have a look around Elance. <img src='http://www.argolon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Eoghan McCabe</title>
		<link>http://www.argolon.com/2006/10/15/the-outsourcing-adventure-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Eoghan McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m particularly interested in this two-parter because I&#039;m about to hire my first contractor. I&#039;m outsourcing some work to a guy I met at BarCamp, I&#039;ll be paying him full price and I&#039;m a little uneasy about the idea of paying someone in India 1/6th that value for the same job. Questions of ethics, moral, social and national responsibility etc. fill my head. Maybe I&#039;m being far too anal about it and need to wake up to the way this &quot;global economy&quot; works, but if everyone in your position outsourced overseas I&#039;d have no job. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m particularly interested in this two-parter because I&#8217;m about to hire my first contractor. I&#8217;m outsourcing some work to a guy I met at BarCamp, I&#8217;ll be paying him full price and I&#8217;m a little uneasy about the idea of paying someone in India 1/6th that value for the same job. Questions of ethics, moral, social and national responsibility etc. fill my head. Maybe I&#8217;m being far too anal about it and need to wake up to the way this &#8220;global economy&#8221; works, but if everyone in your position outsourced overseas I&#8217;d have no job. <img src='http://www.argolon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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