Web 2.0 Conference Dublin – much food for thought
The Web 2.0 Conference in Dublin was a big success and was well worth attending. It was great to finally put faces to a lot of names in the Irish tech world and beyond. I went out the previous night to an informal meet-up arranged by Robert Smith. The layout of the place unfortunately was not conducive to talking to lots of the people who turned up which meant I didn’t get to talk to Marc Canter about Microformats and Structured Blogging until the following day.
However the wide range of people out that night made it very entertaining. We had everyone from the Webbiest of Web 2.0 companies in Fergus Burns of Nooked, to Justin Mason of SpamAssassin fame, to Jonathan Hill of Infacta, to Julian Ellison and Dr. Yongchun Ji from Tablane to Bernard and Antoin from aSpoke who make incredibly funky overlays for your laptop – they are less Web 2.0 and more Marketing 2.0.
The main event itself was kicked off by Kevin Sherry, the head of the High Potential Startup Unit in EI who was in the unenviable position of having to give a definition of Web 2.0 in front of many experts in the field. Kudos to him for making total sense. One of the key issues for the day was the fact that many of the companies involved in this area are based outside of Dublin. This is not an accident, it is a key attribute of the type of technologies being used and being developed. It allows small teams and distributed teams to create applications with minimal local supporting infrastructure. Long may it continue.
I was particularly impressed by the speech given by Judy Gibbons of Accel. She hit directly on several topics which have been high in our
thoughts recently. Her focus on mobile and many of the tough challenges associated with that platform firmed up some of my thinking. And when she mentioned PC-Mobile interplay and the unique opportunities presented in that area in Europe, I got some validation that we were on the right path.
John Collins then introduced four companies, each of which then gave a presentation:
- Fergus Burns presented Nooked who are deeply embedded in RSS and all of the new business that will be driven from that. I finally understood the business model!
- Jonathan Hill presented Infacta who are not really Web 2.0 but have a very solid Internet business, They have recently done a deal with Nooked so we will see some integration of opt-in e-mail marketing and RSS.
- Walter presented Sxoop and PXN8. I noticed a lot of the panel scribbling during this one! Again, I hadn’t realised the number of licencing models that Walter had and came away even more impressed.
- Julian from Tablane gave one of the best presentations of the day. Interesting, slick, funny. But I still don’t get it. The word “Wiki” kept popping into my head.
And then it was Canter-time! I’ve only ever heard recordings of Marc in action, I had never seen him live. He lived up to all the expectations. Loud, funny, riveting, obnoxious, correct. I think he may have been a bit of a shock to the genteel world of Irish business. It is not often you hear the phrases “f**k that s**t” and “make your nipples hard” at an EI conference. My only personal disappointment was that he had so much ground to cover that uF and SB only got a small mention. His People Aggregator looks like it is a winner.
I took three short videos of Marc in action using my Nokia N70. The picture quality is poor but the sound quality is fine.
Apologies to Adam Green and the gang doing the round table, I missed most of it but when I came in near the end I caught some interesting and robust exchanges.
Over lunch I got to meet James Corbett finally and it was fisticuffs in the foyer over Structured Blogging. James has a good mini-review of the day over at Eirepreneur. I also cornered Jeff Clavier to discuss Microformats and we quickly bounced around from uF to Edgeio to Google Base to Google world domination to Microsoft and Live Clipboard to mobile form factors. Jeff gave his speech right after lunch and like Judy had some real gems to share. He had a lovely turn of phrase to describe many of the successful Web 2.0 sites: “affinity based communities”.
Jeff was followed by three more Irish company presentations:
- Neil Flanagan of Alatto presented their hugely impressive Mobile application. I can’t figure out how it works but it looks amazing. They appear to have solved the biggest single problem in creating applications on a mobile device – the input device. Their system minimises the number of clicks required to get to all your most important apps and features. I really want to try this out.
- Fran McKeagney of Inner Workings gave a very slick presentation on their company. Unlike most Web 2.0 companies they are in the enterprise space. As he pointed out, it is a much slower sales cycle and is not considered very sexy. I must admit that I didn’t really get a great feel for what the core product does from his presentation. These guys are already VC funded and I am sure they provide much advice to others looking into that option.
- Brian O’Doherty from Herbert Street Technologies presented their product suite. This appears to be a massively featured CMS whose focus is on security. The product appeared to have every possible feature one could think of. I’m amazed that I have never heard of them before this. It looks like they are going after verticals with highly customised versions of the product. Another enterprise oriented company and a highly impressive one at that.
One issue that came up during the day was that VCs generally only get involved at Series A funding. They all said that startups should use Angels for their initial funding right up to launch and proof of concept. If that is the case, should we not have had a room full of potential Angel investors there rather than VCs? One audience member pointed out that, unlike the US, there is a big disconnect in Ireland between those who would have the funds to take a flutter on a startup and those who want to do a startup. This is because many of those potential investors made their money on things like property and stay well away from areas they do not understand. It was pointed out that EI should be providing those links. It is obviously a minefield for EI with serious potential conflicts of interest issues but if they simply acted as a facilitator between groups of client technology firms and groups of non-technology investors then that would be a big step forward.
Due to the five hour drive to Cork, I had to leave early. So I missed the presentations given by Daniel Waterhouse of 3i and Nasser Batley from Dresdner Kleinworth Wasserstein and also the final Q&A by Marc. I’d be interested to hear what people thought of those sessions. I did nab Marc for a few minutes to talk about progress in Structured Blogging and he aptly (considering the topics of discussion during the day) pointed out that they need funding to continue the development of the plug-ins and move further along the roadmap. Hopefully someone with deeper pockets than ourselves will get involved here. One thought which I mentioned to him was that it would be great if a site or Firefox plug-in (like Performancing) could be developed which allowed people to write SB posts without needing anything installed on their blog. This would pull in all of the people on Blogger and the other platforms and start creating critical mass. Marc replied that the People Aggregator should provide some of that functionality.
There was a good contingent from Enterprise Ireland and particular praise should go to to Brian O’Malley and Mary Boyle for their great organization of the event. However I will get a small dig at EI for organising a Web 2.0 event but having a web-site which is utterly broken in Firefox.
One group that I had no interaction with were the Irish VCs in the audience. Did anyone else talk to any of them to see what they thought of the day?
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16 Comments for this entry
Paul Browne
Conor, didn’t seem to be able to trackback to your site about the Web2Ireland post you did.
http://www.firstpartners.net/blog/web2ireland
Conor O'Neill
I’m seeing some oddness alright. None of the outgoing trackbacks to Typepad blogs from my post worked either (Eirepreneur and Jeff Clavier) but the WordPress one did (Marc Canter). I did a WordPress re-install recently and I’ve seen a few glitches.
Fergus Burns
Hi Conor
great post
had hoped to chat more re: MF and SB – we’re doing some interesting stuff @ that area
talk soon
fergus
Julian Ellison
Yes, a very good post. I have had similar comments about differentiation from Wikis, which is very useful. It is easy enough to show when giving a demo, but I need to work it into the story too. The answer to where we are different from Wikis lies in the immediacy of a pushed method, akin to e-mail, allowing for a much easier, and more dynamic way of collaboratively building a research resource within a team — think OnFolio, meets Writely, meets Groove, meets Instant Messaging – or something like that
Conor O'Neill
Ahh, so it is the dynamic aspect of it that is the killer feature? Now I think I get it. Like an advanced version of some of those "screen writing" tools where each participant sees the others changes in almost realtime? I like the sound of it, particularly for globally distributed teams.
Julian Ellison
Bingo! You’ve got it. Now I just need to find the pithy phrase to encapsulate it (oh and figure out how to do this on a mass scale for real
Conor O'Neill
One thing missing from the original post was a URL for Herbert Street Technologies. Brian O’Doherty sent me this one: Group Factor
Conor O'Neill
Fergus, would love to talk more on SB and uF. Really interested to hear what you are working on.
Brian O'Doherty
Conor
Thanks for your kind comments about us in your blog/report from the Web 2.0 Conference last week.
Our main website- where there is some explanation of our technology – is
http://www.GroupFactor.com. But your reader might be more interested in trying our system by registering on http://www.quiknets.com and please forgive us the fact that there are a couple of elements there still under final preparation. Registration is free but space is limited for individual users. However, your reader can just send a message to "Brian" on that network and I’ll add more space.
We don’t- or Didn’t- really see ourselves as a CMS system. We set out merely to write a truly secure way of communicating on the Internet (Telecryption is being integrated now). We have ended up in the "community software" type of field, but with some unique integrated elements, such as document storage, remote file management, private internal "email" and of course security. On top of which we have "collaboration" features and soon hope to expand the number of document types which can be created and edited online. (So, that seems to be bringing us towards the Virtual Office concept, which we had never though about……and don’t quite know what to do about !)(Ideas welcome !)
Anyway, thanks again, Conor
Conor O'Neill
I guessed I was under-stating it by calling it a CMS. Seems like maybe there are some synergies between what you are doing and what the Tablane guys are developing?
Brian O'Doherty
I can’t get onto the Tablane site to check……I’ll try again later
if you combined MS Sharepoint with Groove- I expect they will do it – and made the result web-based, and added an internal direct communications system, and transparent security…..then, we’re somewhere in that space. On top of that we would add customised database-driven, or other, web-enabled apps, as required by the application. For exmple, we are testing http://www.Dermanet.co.uk, which is a communications system as described above, supplemented with a Referral Database, whose members are GPs and dermatologists/ consultants and whose main purpose in using the network would be to refer patients online and keep track of their progress.
But there are also smaller apps possible. That is, not using all the main functionality. e.g an encrypted online document storage Locker, where people can store and edit docs, and from where they can send docs to anywhere, via right-click. (I guess you could get into the Locker over a 3G mobile phone, but I wonder about uploading camera photos to the Locker and then distributing them from there, after online editing/expansion–could be good–you don’t need Flickr–we would need a mobile phone partner to jointly examine that one, and we could also add the encryption angle)
Brian O'Malley
Conor, would like to join the other guys in complimenting you on your commentary. Thanks for the positive feedback from both Mary & I. Delighted overall with response to the event – many people appear to have put faces to names which will do no harm. Hopefully its not the last gathering of its kind…
Conor O'Neill
I’m already looking forward to our mini-conference in Cork in June!
INdiglobe
great post


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